Oblivion talk:Mondrar Henim

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Hassildor[edit]

Looking at the recent addition about raising Mondrars disposition, I don't see how he can avoid being attacked by Janus Hassildor. According to his chart and the Oblivion:Factions page Mondrar is in the necromancers cult faction and Hassildors personal faction causes a 50 point disposition decrease to all members of that faction, thus making an attack almost inevitable. I cant verify this for myself because I recently had another in the long list of arguments with my brother and can no longer use his copy of Oblivion. --Volanaro 08:25, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

Hassildors relationship is verified here so Hassildor should always attack Mondrar and Arterion, unless the user who posted the comment is using the CS or unoficial mods in which case the comment should not have been posted in the first place. --Volanaro 05:14, 16 June 2008 (EDT)
The faction only imposes a -50 penalty so an initial disposition of 55+ wouldn't drop that below Henim's or Hassildor's Aggression level, which would mean they wouldn't attack each other.
In any case, the post on the article is talking about Henim not attacking you. That also looks possible. The Necromancer Cult has a -30 disp adjust with the Mages Guild, but that gets multiplied by your rank, which is Journeyman (3) at this point. That means he gets a -90 disp adjust with you so he would have to have an initial disposition of 95+ not to attack. Tricky, but it is just possible. Obviously needs more careful verification though. –RpehTCE 05:29, 16 June 2008 (EDT)
On further reflection, I've removed the note. It's not just true for this NPC it's true for all of them and so doesn't need mentioning here. — Unsigned comment by Rpeh (talkcontribs)
I have tried it myself. If Mercator hasn't talked to you yet, you can raise the disposition of both necromancers. I did, and yielded to both of them. They sat there and talked until the count arrived. Then they attacked the count. After the count was unconscious, they attacked each other until one remained. For me, it was Mondrar. After their fight, the count used an invisibility spell, and I couldn't find him, until I frenzied and killed Mondrar. --67.34.189.176 21:02, 5 June 2011 (UTC)